"Wobbles the Mind" (wobblesthemind)
12/17/2016 at 12:08 • Filed to: Manuals | 0 | 12 |
I never hear anyone talking about the manual versions of these cars (especially the M6 Sedan) so I’m curious why they aren’t ever mentioned? Both are still on sale right now with their manual options. Maybe I’m all alone being into this kind of stuff...
jimz
> Wobbles the Mind
12/17/2016 at 12:15 | 1 |
in the case of the Ram, it’s probably because they have to de-rate the engine by 300 lb-ft for the manual transmission.
My X-type is too a real Jaguar
> Wobbles the Mind
12/17/2016 at 12:18 | 2 |
The manual big BMWs are hard to find and dealers are reluctant to order them.
ToyotaFamily
> Wobbles the Mind
12/17/2016 at 12:19 | 0 |
I just don’t think most people look for a manual diesel truck. I work at a dealer and we had one sit for a looooong time.
jimz
> ToyotaFamily
12/17/2016 at 12:20 | 1 |
I bought a 2000 Ram 2500 with the diesel and a stick, but I had to order it.
jasmits
> jimz
12/17/2016 at 12:27 | 0 |
That’s probably the bigger thing, there are still people out there that would want a stick in their towing or work rig but not at the cost of that much torque
DipodomysDeserti
> My X-type is too a real Jaguar
12/17/2016 at 12:31 | 0 |
Yep. I live by one of the largest ‘M’ dealers in the country and they keep a few manual M3s in stock, but everything else has to ne ordered.
My X-type is too a real Jaguar
> DipodomysDeserti
12/17/2016 at 12:38 | 2 |
I searched for months for a Manual 535i ended up buying an extremely low mileage used one. The dealership where I have it serviced says it’s the only one they work on.
ToyotaFamily
> jimz
12/17/2016 at 12:42 | 0 |
Well older rams like that were definitely more common with that combination I’m sure. this was a 2013 I believe, didnt help that it was an orange 2WD either.
jimz
> ToyotaFamily
12/17/2016 at 12:44 | 1 |
ah yeah, RWD stick-shift truck? Lot poison.
Eric @ opposite-lock.com
> ToyotaFamily
12/17/2016 at 13:01 | 0 |
Who the hell wants a 2WD manual truck?!
nermal
> jimz
12/17/2016 at 19:50 | 0 |
A lot of that is advertising. In the 2500s, it’s 660 vs 800, so only 140 difference. In the auto versions at least, the full 800 lb-ft isn’t available until 4th gear if I remember right, not sure if the manuals are derated in lower gears or not.
nermal
> Wobbles the Mind
12/17/2016 at 19:55 | 0 |
It’s because dealers aren’t ordering them, and nobody is buying them. I have a manual Ram that sat on the lot for 6 months before I bought it. It’s not difficult to drive, just slow. Definitely more engaging to drive than the auto, but seriously, who buys an HD pickup for the engaging driving experience?
More than likely the redesigned version in ‘19 will be auto-only, and besides a vocal minority, it won’t really effect sales.